Hi all,
I have a model zodiac with an in board jet drive unit, I have the gear switch controlling a diverter gate in the jet drive to achieve reverse.To use the reverse function I need to switch the diverter plate so water is pushed out under the model towards thfront making the zodiac go backwards -- I hope the explanation is clear!!
My question is, can I set the throttle stick so that upwards gives up to full throttle forwards, and moving the stick downwards in the traditional reverse situation, but with the drive system running in the forwards direction but with a setable max speed to avoid the boat getting swamped?
I realise I can just use upwards movement, but I need a reduced rotation same direction as forwards because when junior members of the club use the boat it tends to flood when going backwards!
I have looked a Limits, but that will not work.
Thanks in advance
Model Zodiac Jet Drive
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Re: Model Zodiac Jet Drive
A couple of possibilities:
1. Use a (5 point) curve, say 20, 10, 0, 50, 100. This gives 20% (max) "reverse" and 100% forwards. Change the 20 and 10 values to give more or less reverse speed.
2. Use 2 mixes:
+100% Thr Curve(x>0)
-30% Thr Curve(x<0)
Adjust the -30% to give the required reverse speed.
You could also use a logical switch, based on the THR value being less than 0, to switch the diverter gate.
Mike
1. Use a (5 point) curve, say 20, 10, 0, 50, 100. This gives 20% (max) "reverse" and 100% forwards. Change the 20 and 10 values to give more or less reverse speed.
2. Use 2 mixes:
+100% Thr Curve(x>0)
-30% Thr Curve(x<0)
Adjust the -30% to give the required reverse speed.
You could also use a logical switch, based on the THR value being less than 0, to switch the diverter gate.
Mike
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Re: Model Zodiac Jet Drive
Hi Mike
Configured the curve option here on the bench, yes that works for me, I'll take it up the pond saturday and give it a whizz!
Just another thought, can the gear switch function be tied in to work with the throttle, ie reverse stick movement to change the gear, or in my case the gate baffle automatically?
Thanks for that Mike!! )
Configured the curve option here on the bench, yes that works for me, I'll take it up the pond saturday and give it a whizz!
Just another thought, can the gear switch function be tied in to work with the throttle, ie reverse stick movement to change the gear, or in my case the gate baffle automatically?
Thanks for that Mike!! )
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Re: Model Zodiac Jet Drive
err Yes!
Mike
L1 Thr<0
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Re: Model Zodiac Jet Drive
Ok, thanks for the info, however being an absolute dimbo, this is all a bit like black magic, I can do and achieve simple 'stuff' but how would I do
L1 Thr<0
I have had a look at Logical switches , but how to configure 'em'!!
Thanks
L1 Thr<0
I have had a look at Logical switches , but how to configure 'em'!!
Thanks
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Re: Model Zodiac Jet Drive
Set the L1 line in L.Switches to:
L1 v<val Thr 0
On recent firmware versions you enter the values by pressing MENU to get to the editing screen where you set:
Function v<val
V1 Thr
val 0
AND ---
Delay 0.0
Older firmware lets you set these on the switches list screen, press MENU on each item to enter "edit mode", then use UP/DOWN to change the value.
When set, switch L1 will be ON, when the throttle is below 0% (centre position), so when in reverse.
Mike
L1 v<val Thr 0
On recent firmware versions you enter the values by pressing MENU to get to the editing screen where you set:
Function v<val
V1 Thr
val 0
AND ---
Delay 0.0
Older firmware lets you set these on the switches list screen, press MENU on each item to enter "edit mode", then use UP/DOWN to change the value.
When set, switch L1 will be ON, when the throttle is below 0% (centre position), so when in reverse.
Mike
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Re: Model Zodiac Jet Drive
Ok, tried the boat yesterday with just the curve applied and a manualswitch, excellent!! Last night I had a fiddle with the switch function , initially without success but eventually the penny dropped and using logic I solved the auto switching, again excellent!!
Many thanks for the assistance Mike, I suppose my problems are age and also that for model boats, nothing 'fancy' is required until something like this project arrives, then I am at a loss!!
Just one more question, when switching the boat on, there is a servo kick of about 90', is there any electronickery can that can reduce this? if not , I will just demount the servo arm and then reinstall when the system has settled down
Software installed - R220
Many thanks for the assistance Mike, I suppose my problems are age and also that for model boats, nothing 'fancy' is required until something like this project arrives, then I am at a loss!!
Just one more question, when switching the boat on, there is a servo kick of about 90', is there any electronickery can that can reduce this? if not , I will just demount the servo arm and then reinstall when the system has settled down
Software installed - R220